personally vested in the outcome of the case than he should have been. as an expert you want somebody to say, these are the facts, the circumstances, this is my diagnosis. the prosecutor juan martinez managed to get dr. samuels all twisted up, turned around and intimated, hey, you liked jodi a little too much. the second expert we saw take the stand, dr. alice laviolet focused a lot on the domestic violence areas and not necessarily on jodi's mental state so much. we have only seen her on direct. she's done an outstanding job educating the jury. she's more likable. and the jurors are rapt at attention. we have been talking to the court watchers reporting from inside the courtroom. they say, hey, this expert has come to the table with with the goods. the first expert, dr. richard samuels, not so much. he did not help the defense. >> i have to be honest with you. i have no interest in this trial.